were there a lot of elders, ms's and pioneers that should not have had those titles?.
ME
I should not have been appointed an MS ( I was not consulted and it was just announced without my pre knowledge)
I should not have remained one for the entire time i was, I should not have been a pioneer either.
I just kept trying to do the right moves to overcome my 'weaknesses' ... it didnt work and they knew it.
just another proof that the holy spirit is a fraud.
oz
i don't believe the bible is inerrant nor do i hold a 'christian worldview' any longer as my profile details say (which i am unable to update on my profile), but i just can't see how anyone can be absolutely 100% confident there is nothing out there we can call a 'god' or spirit creature in the face of endless first-hand accounts of paranormal and occult experiences that felt as 'real' to the person who experienced them as anything else in their lives.. there are untold reports of ghosts, faith-healing, ouija boards, seances, spirit mediums, stigmata, mystical born-again experiences, speaking in tongues, and then there's hypnotism, ufo sightings, poltergeists, remote viewing, etc, etc.
ok, so its mostly only anecdotal evidence, but the amount of it is so overwhelming it is practically corroborating evidence.
in the face of all this, how can anyone categorically assert that there is nothing out there that is beyond ourselves that we might call a 'god' or spirit creature?
just dont cut it...
nor does the bible or any other so called proof of all the above things either...
sometimes we just have to learn to say "IT DOES NOT MATTER''.
Oz
how suicidal thoughts can take over your life.. i lived most of my life thinking about suicide.
i have clear memories when i was 8 years old thinking about what it would be like to die.
i went to sleep every night of my young childhood saying the prayer:.
wow lady lee
Thankyou for sharing this. I too was once in that dark place, where every night i would pray to not wake up and when i did I would curse 'god' for letting me. I too sought some counseling and changed my life around, for me it was what I called 'circumstancial depression'. Once i abandoned the religion and life that was sucking my soul out, I was able to make recovery. ( it took some time i might add)
I hope I never revisit that dark place.
To all those who have felt or do feel suicidal...PLEASE GET HELP. I think we all know that sometimes the pain can be just too much even with professional help and people use that 'ace up their sleeve', but please dont! You will have no idea just how much devestation you leave behind among those you may think dont care.
Oz
hi,.
i am new to here so please be bear with me.. i have always believed in god, but was never baptised, my parents wanted me to make up my own mind religon wise.. i am thinking of becoming a jw and am just needing some advice on how to do this, bible study and jw beliefs.
also do jw say grace and how.. i am greatful of any help.. thanks.
Hi Kate... remember this as you contemplate the JWs:
1. They claim to be the ONE SINGLE, that is, THE ONLY TRUE religion on earth. Now, look critically at their ACTIONS because they speak louder than words, and as you do, ask yourself if the one true religion in the entire world would do these things.
2. Then investigate WHY they claim to be the one true UNIQUE religion and compare them to others such as the Second Adventist movements, the Christadelphians and the seventh day Adventists as well...
all the best
oz
i'm relatively new to the faith, and struggle with many concepts and teachings.
i am getting married soon.
part of the teaching i've experienced is that a wife must learn submission to her husband.
You are desiring to 'overcome' the wrong thing.
What the 'faith' is telling you is to go against your own and society's better judgement. The whole 'man is the head and the wife in subjection' is a hangover from the days of a certain tent dwelling nomadic tribe and needs to be seen for what it is, out of touch with reality.
You and your fiance should trust you gut instinct...
As for the faith...I would suggest you find a different one...
we know that the watchtower has many corporations.. .
zion's watch tower tract society in pennsylvania - 1881. watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania - december 15, 1884. international bible students association, which was founded in 1872 in pittsburgh by charles taze russell.. .
my question is about the international bible students assocation.
wouldn't mind betting there are dozens of corporations under the watchtower banner that use different names too...
oz
a video will be posted later today where all the mysteries of god, the disgusting thing causing desolation, all the contradictions in the bible, why god in the old testament seemed so cruel, why was satan created if god is good, how is god love?
all of the prophecies jesus had foretold which were hidden and lost yet being fullfilled the entire time.
this is the good news that will then spread worldwide, and then the end will come.
What the hell?
two months went so bloody fast.
oz
as part of the wt's recent push to get the r&f "to study and recount the history of the earthly part of jehovahs organization" there is a curious article in the from our archives featurette of the august 15th, 2012 watchtower.
it offers a highly sanitized version of early jw history.
but what is particularly strange is this revisionist history re-categorizing of an early bible student/jw, one hugo riemer.
1984...
i don't want to deceive anyone and i have to clarify a few things so i'm sorry this is going to be a lot more vague then you want.
infact if you do not already realize or also feel something is about to happen as in the title, then move along, it will be a month or 2 before i update this.
it's not my intention to annoy anybody, i am too uncomfortable to post any details because it's too new and i need to verify things, and i am also feeling responsible to give a subtle warning, that it might be something somebody needs to see.
I predict that in 2 months time, the bible will still be the book of evil gobbledegook it always has been. One put together by mysoginistic tent dwellers and power hungry men.
I predict that after EOM had wasted away from failure that in 6 months another will take up the mantle of 'he with special knowledge' too...
oz
some of mine are :.
boardwalk empire , deadwood , the borgias , game of thrones , homeland , vegas , political animal , the good wife, to name a few .
smiddy.
NONE
We have not had TV for 2 years now, and to be honest, don't miss a single show. The other week we saw a series/drama etc on TV and guess what? It was a repeat of the last one we saw 2 years earlier...
Fir the first week you 'miss' the show/s then you forget all about the contrived, advert laden mind sucking 'reality' portrayed and served up with a side dish of tempters for the next weeks story.
Guess it's pretty obvious I dislike TV intensly!
oz
